Saying a 10 year old laptop is 2x or 4x slower than a new laptop is just a tiny part of the big picture. If you’re arguing a system to be worse: you’ve lost. The M1 is basically the best thing you can buy right now for the consumer and the cost is equivalent for other business machines such as HPs elitebooks or dells latitude or xps lineup.Īnd for power users: the only good argument you can make is that your tools don’t work for it or you don’t like macos. These machines are compelling even for me, a person who relishes the flexibility of a more open platform - I can not imagine myself not recommending them to someone who just uses office suites or communication software. Just like I wouldn’t advise people to buy old shoes because it’s cheaper. Honestly, I’m not so hot on Apple (FD I am sending this from an iPhone), I prefer to run Linux on my machines but I would not advocate everyone to do that. Intel have been overcharging for more than a decade when innovation stagnated. It’s good for _everyone_ that these chips are as fast as the best chips on the market, have crazy low power consumption and the cost for new is comparable. I feel like I’m talking to someone who has a fixed opinion against something. So what is the trade off you think you’re making? It might be a long time before it makes sense to buy a non-Apple laptop. Whether or not they'd agree on the workstation MacPro vs 2 slot Xeon workstation market would be interesting. Intel might not even care enough and let Apple have mobile/laptop market first dibs on their latest node if Apple is willing not to touch the server market. And, hell, I bet at that point Apple will be willing to pay enough to take first dibs there as well.ĪMD will never catch up since we know they don't care to compete against Apple laptops and thus won't pay the premium for TSMC's latest art. The big deal here is that this isn't going to change until Intel's process technology catches up. The also are on arm which is another 10-20% advantage for the frontend. That's a 10-20% advantage (very rough ballpark estimate). They also have a much newer microarch design (circa 2006ish) vs AMD and Intel's early 90s designs. Apple is the only one willing to pay the premium. There's a de facto industry leader in process technology today - TSMC. Intel will release Alder Lake and catch up, AMD will reach Zen4 and catch up and Apple will just reach into their pocket and pull out a "oh here's a 45 watt 4nm CPU with two years of microarch upgrades" and the 2022 MBP 16 will have Geekbench scores of ~2200 and ~17000. They know they are in the lead since they are paying TSMC for first dibs on 5nm, but they didn't blow their load on their first generation products. They know AMD/Intel reach some performance level X and released CPUs that perform no greater than X * 1.2. It's faster than a desktop 105 watt 5800x.Īpple intentionally played to the competition here. Hell, this Geekbench is faster than a desktop 125 watt 11900k. the 12980hk and 5980hx) and beyond chips. These are 30 watt chips that trounce the competition's 65 watt (e.g. You're missing out on the fact that Apple didn't release a 12980hk or 5980hx competitor. That's still mightily impressive from a low-power laptop! But I think some of the rhetoric about the M1 Max blowing away desktop CPUs is getting a little ahead of the reality. But if these early Geekbench results are accurate, it's going to be about half as fast as my AMD desktop in code compilation (see Clang results in the detailed score breakdown). I'm very excited to get my M1 Max in a few weeks. Even AMD's top mobile CPU isn't that far behind the M1 Max in Geekbench scores. It's fast and super power efficient, but it's mostly on par with mid-range 8-core AMD desktop CPUs from 2020. Compared to modern AMD mobile parts, it's still faster but not by leaps and bounds.īut I agree that the M1 hype may be getting a little out of hand. Compared to those older CPUs, the M1 Max is a huge leap forward. People in the Mac world (excluding hackintosh) were stuck on relatively outdated x86-64 CPUs. Apple really dragged their feet on updating the old Intel Macs before the transition. No matter how you look at it, that's impressive.Ģ. It provides mid-range desktop performance in a laptop form factor with mostly fanless operation. I just can't figure out what I'm missing on the "M1 is so fast" side of things.ġ.
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